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What is Arizona thinking in this moment? Curious what people's thoughts are...



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lucefan
May. 9th, 2014 08:10 pm (UTC)
Seems to me like she is thinking of having this baby for Callie but is definitely conflicted about it. I hope the writers don't rush it if that's the route they're going and make it a nice slow process next season.

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awesome_rn
May. 9th, 2014 08:13 pm (UTC)
I think she is heartbroken because she feels like Callie is giving up on something, because Callie doesn't think she (Arizona) is strong enough to deal with what might happen.
sing_u_a_song
May. 9th, 2014 08:45 pm (UTC)
This. Arizona's challenge from the premiere was "can you be stronger" and the miscarriage is the final hurdle for her to overcome. In the finale I think she's going to do something to prove to Callie that it is something she truly wants, and should anything happen it won't break her (or them) again. That could be them making the decision to go to therapy together, but I also feel a recommitment to their marriage as well (as was foreshadowed in the premiere).
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pasha2009
May. 9th, 2014 08:18 pm (UTC)
Something was off in the way A said it can be enough. And, C's that last sob before A says she loves her felt as much like a silent sorry. I think they will eventually figure out a way to have a kid; right now it will just be a matter of figuring out how they can be sad 'together' instead of alone and maybe C needs some reassurance.
I liked the acknowledgement that they are fragile, it was all very grounded and matured.
keebs26
May. 9th, 2014 09:49 pm (UTC)
"Something was off in the way A said it can be enough."

The way I read that, I think Arizona was as sad as Callie but she was trying to reassure Callie & be stronger in that moment. Callie said it in a questioning way & Arizona tried the reassuring tone but you could tell there was sadness still there.

Arizona's "I love you" could've been a silent sorry. But it also felt like "this is a hard time, but we'll get through it because I love you" I love you riddled with sadness.
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carrie907
May. 9th, 2014 08:21 pm (UTC)
Really hope they have another kid. Hope Arizona steps up somehow. Callie does so much.
Arizona's was amazing in the last scene. Lots of growth.
shigg
May. 9th, 2014 08:22 pm (UTC)
I think she is upset because Callie thinks they are fragile. I believe she wants to change Callies mind and show that she (and they) can get through anything now.
carrie907
May. 9th, 2014 08:23 pm (UTC)
Yes exactly. I hope Arizona proves to callie that they are stronger now
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freebd99
May. 9th, 2014 08:42 pm (UTC)
I think the theme for them in S11 could be about "being stronger". It's certainly not healthy for Callie or Arizona to feel that they're not strong enough...yet to deal with another challenging situation.

Hopefully they'll hold on the baby route for now and explore other SL's that would show strength...

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keebs26
May. 9th, 2014 08:48 pm (UTC)
I just think she's sad for them & sad for Callie. They made a plan & were on the same page & that plan backfired. She went from picking out names to basically declaring Sofia's enough because of bad news. Callie looked heartbroken when Callie said "that can be enough" & then Arizona had to repeat it to make Callie believe it could be enough. Just because something can be enough doesn't make that need or want go away & I think Arizona really wanted this baby just as much as Callie. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Arizona who brought it up again during the finale. If she thinks she can carry she needs to really make Callie hear it or she'll tell them they can go a different route. They both truly want it, so they shouldn't give up so easily & I don't think they will.
carrie907
May. 9th, 2014 08:59 pm (UTC)
I think Arizona will say something. I want Sofia to have a sibling
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cycworker
May. 9th, 2014 09:23 pm (UTC)
I like the idea that there was a silent 'I'm sorry.' I think there are many ways to interpret that. They never really did much re: Arizona feeling guilty about the crash....it was very much 'a truck came out of nowhere." I'm not saying that Arizona didn't blame herself for it, nor am I saying she should beat herself up over it. My only point is it wasn't an aspect of the story they put much emphasis on. Mark blamed Arizona, but we were meant to see him as the bad guy (finally!) in that episode.

What I find interesting is that now they have a vehicle (oh gawd, forgive the pun!) to explore their past. They can go back and address demons that they ignored as they just dove head first into getting married. I remember when Sara did that HuffPo article at the beginning of S9, I said, 'Hmm... I wonder if they're going to deconstruct them enough to go back and talk about Africa, the crash, all of the stuff they got through too quickly. Others thought I was wrong, that it was too late, as there was no way to get them to go back that far into their history. Now, it seems the mechanism exists.

I find it really interesting that in the Twitter convos she engaged in this spring, Shonda didn't kill our hopes for therapy. Obviously, I'm not 100% sure they'll go, but I am more confident than I was at one point that it's on the table as a possibility for next season. How many sessions we'd actually see, I don't know. For the sake of Drama! and Thrills! I do foresee a scenario where one (Arizona, I imagine) snuck off to therapy without actually telling the other, thus leading to cheating fears.

I just hope to GOD if they do give us scene(s) of them with a therapist, they write the therapist better than they did for those Cristina/Owen scenes. I know they can, because they did when Meredith attended therapy. Good therapists challenge their clients! They don't just ignore it when their clients make condescending remarks like Owen and his, "You'll understand when you grow up," crap. Sorry, off topic. It just still bugs me to no end.

There is a potential for really good, quality adult scenes here. Under Phelan and Rater, I wouldn't have much hope we'd such a story. But now that McKee and Harper will be running Season 11? I feel very confident we'll get quality storytelling.
funkyshaz57
May. 10th, 2014 01:17 am (UTC)
They never really did much re: Arizona feeling guilty about the crash

This always bothered me, that people thought she may need to feel guilty, I'm sure she did but i never felt that she had anything to feel guilty about,, she nearly lost Callie and her unborn child, had Mark disrespecting her and she stayed strong throughout - it was simply an accident while it sucks that Callie can't bear children from that the idea that there was a silent sorry because she may possibly for guilty for the fact that Callie can't bear children doesn't settle well with me. Being sorry in general because her wife just got devastating news yes but not the other
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cath_90
May. 9th, 2014 10:35 pm (UTC)
Hmm,I think she's thinking that this isn't really enough for Callie.She knows Callie,she knows what she wants and understands that this is just a compromise from Callie's side. Maybe she starts thinking of ways to make this happen :)

p.s. it's been so long since the last time i wrote here,i really missed talking about each grey's episode and writing in this community.there I said it :)
freebd99
May. 10th, 2014 03:17 pm (UTC)
"p.s. it's been so long since the last time i wrote here,i really missed talking about each grey's episode and writing in this community.there I said it :)"

- Welcome back! :-)
Lots of interesting stuff happening to our girls worth talking about.
jodief1
May. 10th, 2014 12:53 am (UTC)
I loved this scene because I think AZ is processing a million things at this moment. She puts on a brave face for Callie, but when she knows she can't be seen, the vulnerability comes through. Mostly I think she's scared because now she feels an obligation to carry their next child but was burned by the miscarriage and is, like Callie, concerned about tipping the boat again.

IMHO it might be interesting to have Calzona revisit some past decisions/feelings in s11, but only in a therapeutic context. I would hate to see them continue to struggle with one another without any help whatsoever from anyone AGAIN. I don't care about Shonda's (and JCap's) "drama" mantra: to me, that would just be rehashing the past few seasons instead of moving on to something fresh and new. I think there's a lot of interesting drama to be had when two people are moving from the "new" love stage to a longer-term commitment. MerDer certainly have had their share of drama without having the relationship itself on the line for several seasons now.

And don't get me started on the fact that it appears we'll never see Calzona doing more than light kissing EVER AGAIN. Those fully-clothed, prim bed scenes do not exactly remind us of why these two women are trying so hard to make their relationship work.
Robbins Torres
May. 10th, 2014 02:27 pm (UTC)
My thoughts about Arizona's look are the following:
1) Arizona may feel so deeply concerned because she wanted as much as Callie to have another baby. (choosing names, scheduling pregnancy, etc...)
2) In her eyes, we can see sadness but also fear because as Callie said to her if she tried to get pregnant again, she might miscarry and their couple may not overcome it.
3) We have noticed that Arizona stood as a good man in this storm in front of Callie because her wife needed a support, but we all know and Callie even knows how much Arizona is vulnerable, that's why she refused her offer.
4) I think that this baby talk isn't over again and this look is foreshadowing what Arizona might do maybe in the finale or next season which is convincing Callie that she is strong enough and she can carry their child .
jenrind
May. 12th, 2014 02:22 am (UTC)
Arizona offered to carry their baby, but she didn't sound very sure to me. She wants a baby, but she's scared. However, Callie's suggestion that they couldn't survive another loss is pretty harsh.

My dream is that they decide to do the work to become strong enough together to take this risk knowing that they are unbreakable.
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